🔴 Live Q&A! New audio setup, Comica VDLive10 comparisons, ATEM Mini Extreme rate limiting tests

October 10, 2021

Questions

6 Minute Media
(8:17) Ian in Glasgow, Scotland

David Keay
(8:19) Hi from Edinburgh!!

John Watson Photography
(8:22) Hi from UK

TheTWolfMan
(8:23) Greetings from Germany

jimboco2006
(9:57) @aaronparecki: How about “Trial & Aaron”?

Graham Rule
(10:44) @Aaron Parecki what about the third half? 🙂

Chris Lai
(10:52) “If all going to plan”….two hours later….

Lesantir Personal
(11:11) @Aaron Parecki Grab your popocorn and drink of choice People, cause this is going to be a long stream😅😅😅

Kwaku WednesdayTV
(11:31) QUESTION: My 4th Camera Never seems to work with the atem mini

Road To Sigma
(12:37) Does your Live Chat Extension work with Restream.io? sent you an email as well in regards to this as well

Graham Rule
(14:28) @Aaron Parecki I think that the ATEM mini handles one of its inputs differently to the others. Could @Kwaku WednesdayTV have their fourth camera in that?

Funerstream Online Funerals
(15:16) QUESTION - 🙋‍♂️ - How is Yolo quality vs ATEM and Epiphan

Road To Sigma
(16:19) THANK YOU!

Rick Allen
(17:19) @Aaron Parecki I was thinking the audio sounded better already. Nice to hear that I wasn't hallucinating

Shayne John
(17:29) @Aaron Parecki how do I livestream a multicamera setup using green screen with the ATEM Mini Pro?

Roy Baguidy
(19:02) Q: with all those streaming applications coming up; what’s your stand on Hardware Vs software? Thank you

Peter Nõu
(21:11) @aaron parecki Keynote live with live feed cameras as embedded object? Initial thoughts?

CombTech
(22:41) Q Part 1 - I have a new Hyperdeck HD Plus and also use Plyoutbee. On the BMD I can only see a few files - mostly are MP4 yet the same files on Playoutbe are all shown.

CombTech
(22:48) Q Part 2 - I know the BMD Hyperdrive only shows files of the same type, but as far as I can see they arfe all the same type.

Roland Dobbins
(23:53) @Aaron Parecki — I also found out that PlayoutBee doesn’t accept .mov files, nor does it accept .mp4 VFR. It require .mp4 CFR.

jhb
(24:16) Question- what is you recommended laptop to use for streaming? Thanks

KK4TXB TV
(25:05) was just about to sell the atem mini, now im second quessing myself thanks for the great ideas!! PS luv the PK1 on the extreme

Roland Dobbins
(26:05) @Aaron Parecki — I was shocked to find out that none of the new BMD UltraStudios have Ethernet connectors. It appears they all must be controlled locally via Thunderbolt.

Dan Schueler
(26:52) @Aaron Parecki I'm doing a live stream with some really funny lip synchers in a few days. Is youtube letting these things go live before shutting them down these days?

Roland Dobbins
(27:22) @jhb — the best laptop for streaming is an ATEM Mini Extreme ISO. ;>

Roland Dobbins
(27:30) @Aaron Parecki — aren’t the UltraStudios replacements for the HyperDeck? Since they don’t have Ethernet, the only way to control them with Companion is via macros, AFAICT.

F You Money! Podcast
(27:54) @Aaron Parecki You need 2 ATEMs as we already discussed here some time ago (Hugo here! Changed channel name). 😉

Hardy Media
(28:07) @Aaron Parecki Re: pre-ordered a BirdDog Play 4K NDI Player from DVE Store - "new anticipated in stock date of Late December 2021 provided by Bird Dog"

F You Money! Podcast
(30:02) @Aaron Parecki I have a BMD 4K camera and it works fine with my ATEM... ?!?!?

Kauto Huopio
(30:23) Question: how about external incoming stream sources (guests etc) to Yolobox?

Roland Dobbins
(33:09) @Aaron Parecki — thanks for correcting me in re the Hyperdeck. Do you know if the newer Hyperdeck HD Studio Mini fans are loud?

SG-cia
(34:16) Q- On Yolobox what is the highest recording bitrate

Dan C Bearded
(38:44) Boom’d above you?

Dan C Bearded
(39:42) Wayyy better!!!! Whoa

Rick Allen
(39:55) @Aaron Parecki Gain levels are different

Peter Nõu
(40:07) New better.

Diane Nalini
(40:10) New mic sounds better!

jhb
(40:11) Wow big difference

Darin Land
(40:14) Yes, much better.

Mikael Svennungsson
(41:22) Same location?

Roland Dobbins
(41:50) @Aaron Parecki — target gain should generally be around -12.

Hardy Media
(42:17) Q @Aaron Parecki Have you had a chance to look at NewBlue Titler Live?

mediarexx
(42:19) Many thanks for these livestreams!

Diane Nalini
(42:32) @Aaron Parecki old mic was picking up more room noise, new one - EQ seems more balanced.

Diane Nalini
(42:36) @Aaron Parecki old mic was picking up more room noise, new one - EQ seems more balanced.

Pat Richard
(42:52) Whip out the iPhone and crank up Filmic to show us..

Thomas H. Puzia
(44:38) Q - Aaron, can you move one meter to the side, keep talking and then switch between the mics?

Bart Johnson Productions
(45:42) What's up @Aaron Parecki ! Been a while!

6 Minute Media
(45:56) Old mic is wider pattern, new mic defo the better to use in that environment.

Thomas H. Puzia
(46:03) less difference that way

Bart Johnson Productions
(46:20) I haven't streamed in months. Been super busy

Bart Johnson Productions
(46:27) Was actually just out in Portland

Scott Jarriel
(46:36) You pick up more room reflections when off axis of the mics (both of them)

Turning Point Communications
(46:43) @Arron Parecki - Samsung sounds better and looks better too!

WutrUduin?
(46:56) Always thought the old mic was good until hearing the new one.

Philip Meuschke
(47:31) @Aaron Parecki - I would be curious in a future livestream to have you do a comparison between the audio processing on the ATEM vs. the Behringer, if you’re willing to do so.

F You Money! Podcast
(48:57) Hey @Aaron Parecki you and Curtis Judd usually have the live stream at the same time... You guys should coordinate! 😉

MT Steuerung
(49:28) @Aaron Parecki .. the X Air 18 is also great to build up to 6 mix minus for Guests ..

Rene Brunken
(49:35) @Aaron Parecki do you have to compensate audio delay now using the mixer?

WutrUduin?
(50:17) Q: Do you get each of those busses separately over USB? If so, mix minus to multiple guests could be possible now.

Scott Jarriel
(50:37) The XAir 18 and 18R are the ones that have bidirectional USB channels to/from the computer. The 12 and 16 models do not allow USB input.

Geert M
(50:48) @ aaron parecki: you can also use “ducking” for who is not talking!

jhb
(50:59) Question- how much of an audio delay do have on the Atem to keep your vocal I sync

iSF Productions
(51:59) Is a cost effective way for getting effects on the atem mini extreme is using a iPad or laptop vs using a hyper deck

Yo Yo
(54:12) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

F You Money! Podcast
(56:42) @Aaron Parecki is v2.0 of the H2R available? Or are you beta testing it?

Steve Shannon, Broker
(57:20) @Aaron Parecki - This is way cool. Just think about where we were when you did your first show.

Thomas H. Puzia
(57:32) Q - can you feed H2R with all the features into a Zoom meeting?

Yo Yo
(57:52) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

Yo Yo
(1:01:33) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

Black Mutt Video
(1:01:56) switch camera just cycles through all available cameras

Yo Yo
(1:02:12) @Aaron Parecki - got it, thank you! And Thank you everyone for answering my questions!

Graham Rule
(1:02:16) @Aaron Parecki I've seen some people sending the ATEM output into Zoom via its advanced screenshare option rather than as the camera. They say this gives higher resolution. Any thoughts?

Roland Dobbins
(1:03:41) @Aaron Parecki — I have a business account with Zoom, have the HD option enabled, and SuperSource with slides via video works really well. People comment on how good it looks. Am I just lucky?

Graham Rule
(1:04:52) Thanks. Now all I want is high res and high frame rate in Zoom's screenshare (without going bankrupt).

Thomas H. Puzia
(1:13:48) Q- can you plug in an actual lav mic?

Thomas H. Puzia
(1:15:00) Q- can you plug in an actual lav mic?

Black Mutt Video
(1:18:35) @Aaron Parecki TRRS jack

Roland Dobbins
(1:18:37) @Aaron Parecki — TRRS?

Roland Dobbins
(1:18:41) @Aaron Parecki — FYI, the Rode HS2 omnidirectional headset mic works well with the Wireless go as its transmitter pack, & also should work with this one and the other, similar mics/transmitters.

MT Steuerung
(1:18:51) @Aaron Parecki .. to use the Mic unit with a headset will it work like a Talkback using the mic ??

Cajoling Technologies
(1:20:47) Any delay of your own voice in the headphones?

MT Steuerung
(1:21:05) Thanks @Aaron Parecki .. thats great ..

Rick Cox
(1:21:09) From your perspective, how does this compare to the similar RODE wireless mic?

Cajoling Technologies
(1:22:11) Also, the receiver… does it have an audio input other than usb c?

Joshua Thompson
(1:25:46) Yeah, the hiss is audible even on phone speakers.

Cajoling Technologies
(1:26:07) Oh god, that’s pretty bad even without headphones. What a shame….

Roland Dobbins
(1:26:11) @Aaron Parecki — this new wireless mic has a definite hiss & static transients.

Roland Dobbins
(1:27:09) @Aaron Parecki — using it as a recording interface on the iPad sounds fine.

Joshua Thompson
(1:27:13) Interesting. The digital is much cleaner. Can any of the Sony cams etc take audio in over USB C?

Graham Rule
(1:27:28) @Aaron Parecki so that pickup appears as multiple usb devices in the host computer?

Thomas H. Puzia
(1:27:54) Q - battery life?

Cajoling Technologies
(1:28:06) Will zoom on iPad see this mic?

MT Steuerung
(1:28:54) Q - can you put the link in the chat? .. in case I missed

Cajoling Technologies
(1:35:05) Wowowowoow that is awesome!!!!!

Cajoling Technologies
(1:35:41) That is the best selling point right there

Scott Jarriel
(1:36:20) Is there not a drop-down menu with the Mute button that allows access to the audio settings?

Cajoling Technologies
(1:36:48) If that works in zoom that would be a great run and gun zoom setup. iPad on a stand with that mic on talent. They hear the program and program hears them.

Roland Dobbins
(1:37:06) @Aaron Parecki — if I hadn’t bought a couple of the original Wireless Go units, I would buy one of these newer units. But there isn’t enough difference for me to justify it.

Graham Rule
(1:37:54) @Aaron Parecki I think you've just shown me why so many ipad users get mixed up with mute/unmute in Zoom meetings.

Chris Lai
(1:40:52) Giveaway, cool!

Chris Lai
(1:40:53) Dang wasn’t even looking out for it

Yo Yo
(1:41:07) @Aaron Parecki - thanks for the good useful demo!

Geert M
(1:49:24) @ aaron parecki: the other stream is stuttering

Graham Rule
(1:49:28) @Aaron Parecki Don't you sometimes get that message on YouTube because the ATEM is using VBR?

Clay Brinkman
(1:52:40) It has to clear the cache before it will end the stream.

Graham Rule
(1:52:45) @Aaron Parecki I've often had the Off button fail to stop the stream if there was a full buffer. Power cycling fixed it.

Hans Winzell
(1:53:05) Interesting. I have been in this situation out in a livestream. 😲

Joshua Thompson
(1:53:19) I’ve seen that before - it gets mad if the cache fills up!

Thomas H. Puzia
(1:53:22) but why is the cache still filling up when the encoding bandwidth goes down when you stream the static image?

Thomas H. Puzia
(1:55:23) so, the same cache dump happens when you lose the internet connection?

Clay Brinkman
(1:55:30) It's good, because it would end the stream where you intended once the cached feed is sent out.

Geert M
(1:57:19) @aaron parecki is there no way to “force stop” the stream?

Eric Likness
(2:01:48) Literally over 1:30 before the cache fills up. That's a generous cache. That algorithm seems to very liberal, safety-wise.

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:02:00) initially it jumped to 42%

shaka brown
(2:02:04) After having this happen at 2 Weddings, I no longer use my ATMP or ATME to encode. It all goes through Teradek Vidiu now. No problems

MT Steuerung
(2:02:13) @Geert M .. the only way to abrupt end the Stream is to pull the Network Plug

Cajoling Technologies
(2:02:22) By the way… I got burned by these same issues streaming remotely over cellular. This is why I use teradeck with bonding as my encoder

Hans Winzell
(2:02:31) I@Aaron Parecki When the cashe is full it is also affect the recording I have a feeling of.

MT Steuerung
(2:02:54) .. but @Geert M .. yt will stream until you close it in the command center

MT Steuerung
(2:02:55) .. but @Geert M .. yt will stream until you close it in the command center

Clay Brinkman
(2:04:54) @Geert M , you could pull the power cord. No better task manager than that!

Geert M
(2:04:56) @ clay brinkman: yeah; that’s quite drastic if you just want to change to a lower setting :-)

Eric Likness
(2:04:59) Stream looks stable.

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:05:04) let's talk colors again

Joshua Thompson
(2:07:16) “Don’t use wireless things” lol

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:07:18) I just took a screenshot of both streams on YT, and the difference is pretty noticeable.

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:07:26) Is it a bit depth issue of encoding?

Cajoling Technologies
(2:08:05) Let me get this started… for all the awesome info you provide. 🙏 others join in 😃

Marco Panseri
(2:08:16) You have a LUT in the converter?

Marco Panseri
(2:08:25) You have a LUT in the converter?

Graham Rule
(2:11:21) Aaron is now going into the matrix to fix reality. 😀

Black Mutt Video
(2:11:47) @Aaron Parecki you don't know if its that one or the BM one that is messing the colors, do you?

MT Steuerung
(2:13:50) You need more BMD Converters .. oh wait you got them all already ..

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:13:59) Do you have a color card?

Thomas H. Puzia
(2:14:28) biggest lesson of today

Selene Geek
(2:14:33) The Web Presenter is better for streaming? or has the same issues like AMP/AMEx?

TheBest TV
(2:16:06) Hey Aaron , Is it possible to stream on Facebook and Youtube at the same time using ATEM mini extreme ?

Noel Del Pilar
(2:16:22) Q. Do yo recommend fixed 1080p stream key settings or Variable for corporate events, graduations, etc.?

shaka brown
(2:17:28) Earlier question about Extreme audio monitoring sounding horrible than the Program audio monitor.