Aaron Parecki

🔴 Live Q&A! New audio setup, Comica VDLive10 comparisons, ATEM Mini Extreme rate limiting tests

October 10, 2021

Questions

(8:17) Ian in Glasgow, Scotland

(8:19) Hi from Edinburgh!!

(8:22) Hi from UK

(8:23) Greetings from Germany

(9:57) @aaronparecki: How about “Trial & Aaron”?

(10:44) @Aaron Parecki what about the third half? 🙂

(10:52) “If all going to plan”….two hours later….

(11:11) @Aaron Parecki Grab your popocorn and drink of choice People, cause this is going to be a long stream😅😅😅

(11:31) QUESTION: My 4th Camera Never seems to work with the atem mini

(12:37) Does your Live Chat Extension work with Restream.io? sent you an email as well in regards to this as well

(14:28) @Aaron Parecki I think that the ATEM mini handles one of its inputs differently to the others. Could @Kwaku WednesdayTV have their fourth camera in that?

(15:16) QUESTION - 🙋‍♂️ - How is Yolo quality vs ATEM and Epiphan

(16:19) THANK YOU!

(17:19) @Aaron Parecki I was thinking the audio sounded better already. Nice to hear that I wasn't hallucinating

(17:29) @Aaron Parecki how do I livestream a multicamera setup using green screen with the ATEM Mini Pro?

(19:02) Q: with all those streaming applications coming up; what’s your stand on Hardware Vs software? Thank you

(21:11) @aaron parecki Keynote live with live feed cameras as embedded object? Initial thoughts?

(22:41) Q Part 1 - I have a new Hyperdeck HD Plus and also use Plyoutbee. On the BMD I can only see a few files - mostly are MP4 yet the same files on Playoutbe are all shown.

(22:48) Q Part 2 - I know the BMD Hyperdrive only shows files of the same type, but as far as I can see they arfe all the same type.

(23:53) @Aaron Parecki — I also found out that PlayoutBee doesn’t accept .mov files, nor does it accept .mp4 VFR. It require .mp4 CFR.

(24:16) Question- what is you recommended laptop to use for streaming? Thanks

(25:05) was just about to sell the atem mini, now im second quessing myself thanks for the great ideas!! PS luv the PK1 on the extreme

(26:05) @Aaron Parecki — I was shocked to find out that none of the new BMD UltraStudios have Ethernet connectors. It appears they all must be controlled locally via Thunderbolt.

(26:52) @Aaron Parecki I'm doing a live stream with some really funny lip synchers in a few days. Is youtube letting these things go live before shutting them down these days?

(27:22) @jhb — the best laptop for streaming is an ATEM Mini Extreme ISO. ;>

(27:30) @Aaron Parecki — aren’t the UltraStudios replacements for the HyperDeck? Since they don’t have Ethernet, the only way to control them with Companion is via macros, AFAICT.

(27:54) @Aaron Parecki You need 2 ATEMs as we already discussed here some time ago (Hugo here! Changed channel name). 😉

(28:07) @Aaron Parecki Re: pre-ordered a BirdDog Play 4K NDI Player from DVE Store - "new anticipated in stock date of Late December 2021 provided by Bird Dog"

(30:02) @Aaron Parecki I have a BMD 4K camera and it works fine with my ATEM... ?!?!?

(30:23) Question: how about external incoming stream sources (guests etc) to Yolobox?

(33:09) @Aaron Parecki — thanks for correcting me in re the Hyperdeck. Do you know if the newer Hyperdeck HD Studio Mini fans are loud?

(34:16) Q- On Yolobox what is the highest recording bitrate

(38:44) Boom’d above you?

(39:42) Wayyy better!!!! Whoa

(39:55) @Aaron Parecki Gain levels are different

(40:07) New better.

(40:10) New mic sounds better!

(40:11) Wow big difference

(40:14) Yes, much better.

(41:22) Same location?

(41:50) @Aaron Parecki — target gain should generally be around -12.

(42:17) Q @Aaron Parecki Have you had a chance to look at NewBlue Titler Live?

(42:19) Many thanks for these livestreams!

(42:32) @Aaron Parecki old mic was picking up more room noise, new one - EQ seems more balanced.

(42:36) @Aaron Parecki old mic was picking up more room noise, new one - EQ seems more balanced.

(42:52) Whip out the iPhone and crank up Filmic to show us..

(44:38) Q - Aaron, can you move one meter to the side, keep talking and then switch between the mics?

(45:42) What's up @Aaron Parecki ! Been a while!

(45:56) Old mic is wider pattern, new mic defo the better to use in that environment.

(46:03) less difference that way

(46:20) I haven't streamed in months. Been super busy

(46:27) Was actually just out in Portland

(46:36) You pick up more room reflections when off axis of the mics (both of them)

(46:43) @Arron Parecki - Samsung sounds better and looks better too!

(46:56) Always thought the old mic was good until hearing the new one.

(47:31) @Aaron Parecki - I would be curious in a future livestream to have you do a comparison between the audio processing on the ATEM vs. the Behringer, if you’re willing to do so.

(48:57) Hey @Aaron Parecki you and Curtis Judd usually have the live stream at the same time... You guys should coordinate! 😉

(49:28) @Aaron Parecki .. the X Air 18 is also great to build up to 6 mix minus for Guests ..

(49:35) @Aaron Parecki do you have to compensate audio delay now using the mixer?

(50:17) Q: Do you get each of those busses separately over USB? If so, mix minus to multiple guests could be possible now.

(50:37) The XAir 18 and 18R are the ones that have bidirectional USB channels to/from the computer. The 12 and 16 models do not allow USB input.

(50:48) @ aaron parecki: you can also use “ducking” for who is not talking!

(50:59) Question- how much of an audio delay do have on the Atem to keep your vocal I sync

(51:59) Is a cost effective way for getting effects on the atem mini extreme is using a iPad or laptop vs using a hyper deck

(54:12) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

(56:42) @Aaron Parecki is v2.0 of the H2R available? Or are you beta testing it?

(57:20) @Aaron Parecki - This is way cool. Just think about where we were when you did your first show.

(57:32) Q - can you feed H2R with all the features into a Zoom meeting?

(57:52) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

(1:01:33) @Aaron Parecki - can I send SuperSource output to Zoom as a screenshare?

(1:01:56) switch camera just cycles through all available cameras

(1:02:12) @Aaron Parecki - got it, thank you! And Thank you everyone for answering my questions!

(1:02:16) @Aaron Parecki I've seen some people sending the ATEM output into Zoom via its advanced screenshare option rather than as the camera. They say this gives higher resolution. Any thoughts?

(1:03:41) @Aaron Parecki — I have a business account with Zoom, have the HD option enabled, and SuperSource with slides via video works really well. People comment on how good it looks. Am I just lucky?

(1:04:52) Thanks. Now all I want is high res and high frame rate in Zoom's screenshare (without going bankrupt).

(1:13:48) Q- can you plug in an actual lav mic?

(1:15:00) Q- can you plug in an actual lav mic?

(1:18:35) @Aaron Parecki TRRS jack

(1:18:37) @Aaron Parecki — TRRS?

(1:18:41) @Aaron Parecki — FYI, the Rode HS2 omnidirectional headset mic works well with the Wireless go as its transmitter pack, & also should work with this one and the other, similar mics/transmitters.

(1:18:51) @Aaron Parecki .. to use the Mic unit with a headset will it work like a Talkback using the mic ??

(1:20:47) Any delay of your own voice in the headphones?

(1:21:05) Thanks @Aaron Parecki .. thats great ..

(1:21:09) From your perspective, how does this compare to the similar RODE wireless mic?

(1:22:11) Also, the receiver… does it have an audio input other than usb c?

(1:25:46) Yeah, the hiss is audible even on phone speakers.

(1:26:07) Oh god, that’s pretty bad even without headphones. What a shame….

(1:26:11) @Aaron Parecki — this new wireless mic has a definite hiss & static transients.

(1:27:09) @Aaron Parecki — using it as a recording interface on the iPad sounds fine.

(1:27:13) Interesting. The digital is much cleaner. Can any of the Sony cams etc take audio in over USB C?

(1:27:28) @Aaron Parecki so that pickup appears as multiple usb devices in the host computer?

(1:27:54) Q - battery life?

(1:28:06) Will zoom on iPad see this mic?

(1:28:54) Q - can you put the link in the chat? .. in case I missed

(1:35:05) Wowowowoow that is awesome!!!!!

(1:35:41) That is the best selling point right there

(1:36:20) Is there not a drop-down menu with the Mute button that allows access to the audio settings?

(1:36:48) If that works in zoom that would be a great run and gun zoom setup. iPad on a stand with that mic on talent. They hear the program and program hears them.

(1:37:06) @Aaron Parecki — if I hadn’t bought a couple of the original Wireless Go units, I would buy one of these newer units. But there isn’t enough difference for me to justify it.

(1:37:54) @Aaron Parecki I think you've just shown me why so many ipad users get mixed up with mute/unmute in Zoom meetings.

(1:40:52) Giveaway, cool!

(1:40:53) Dang wasn’t even looking out for it

(1:41:07) @Aaron Parecki - thanks for the good useful demo!

(1:49:24) @ aaron parecki: the other stream is stuttering

(1:49:28) @Aaron Parecki Don't you sometimes get that message on YouTube because the ATEM is using VBR?

(1:52:40) It has to clear the cache before it will end the stream.

(1:52:45) @Aaron Parecki I've often had the Off button fail to stop the stream if there was a full buffer. Power cycling fixed it.

(1:53:05) Interesting. I have been in this situation out in a livestream. 😲

(1:53:19) I’ve seen that before - it gets mad if the cache fills up!

(1:53:22) but why is the cache still filling up when the encoding bandwidth goes down when you stream the static image?

(1:55:23) so, the same cache dump happens when you lose the internet connection?

(1:55:30) It's good, because it would end the stream where you intended once the cached feed is sent out.

(1:57:19) @aaron parecki is there no way to “force stop” the stream?

(2:01:48) Literally over 1:30 before the cache fills up. That's a generous cache. That algorithm seems to very liberal, safety-wise.

(2:02:00) initially it jumped to 42%

(2:02:04) After having this happen at 2 Weddings, I no longer use my ATMP or ATME to encode. It all goes through Teradek Vidiu now. No problems

(2:02:13) @Geert M .. the only way to abrupt end the Stream is to pull the Network Plug

(2:02:22) By the way… I got burned by these same issues streaming remotely over cellular. This is why I use teradeck with bonding as my encoder

(2:02:31) I@Aaron Parecki When the cashe is full it is also affect the recording I have a feeling of.

(2:02:54) .. but @Geert M .. yt will stream until you close it in the command center

(2:02:55) .. but @Geert M .. yt will stream until you close it in the command center

(2:04:54) @Geert M , you could pull the power cord. No better task manager than that!

(2:04:56) @ clay brinkman: yeah; that’s quite drastic if you just want to change to a lower setting :-)

(2:04:59) Stream looks stable.

(2:05:04) let's talk colors again

(2:07:16) “Don’t use wireless things” lol

(2:07:18) I just took a screenshot of both streams on YT, and the difference is pretty noticeable.

(2:07:26) Is it a bit depth issue of encoding?

(2:08:05) Let me get this started… for all the awesome info you provide. 🙏 others join in 😃

(2:08:16) You have a LUT in the converter?

(2:08:25) You have a LUT in the converter?

(2:11:21) Aaron is now going into the matrix to fix reality. 😀

(2:11:47) @Aaron Parecki you don't know if its that one or the BM one that is messing the colors, do you?

(2:13:50) You need more BMD Converters .. oh wait you got them all already ..

(2:13:59) Do you have a color card?

(2:14:28) biggest lesson of today

(2:14:33) The Web Presenter is better for streaming? or has the same issues like AMP/AMEx?

(2:16:06) Hey Aaron , Is it possible to stream on Facebook and Youtube at the same time using ATEM mini extreme ?

(2:16:22) Q. Do yo recommend fixed 1080p stream key settings or Variable for corporate events, graduations, etc.?

(2:17:28) Earlier question about Extreme audio monitoring sounding horrible than the Program audio monitor.