πŸ”΄ We need to talk ... Live Q&A about Content ID and copyright on YouTube

February 20, 2022

Questions

Gerhard Kostrewa
(7:11) Q Audio during the Intro only on left Chanel?

anomalily
(7:58) There was some yelling last night about this

Eric Likness
(14:29) So audio podcast is right OUT.

moonpost
(22:47) i blame chrome

Lesantir Personal
(23:10) yep i have used this song before and got a content id claim

Vinyl Vinnie
(23:26) You cant say that @Aaron, Orchard Music (as all other major labels) have other companies that manage copyright issues

Eric Likness
(23:56) Do it! Play it all the way thru

Jason Jolliffe
(26:46) For the copyright Legal fund

Vinyl Vinnie
(27:52) Dispute it and done. Ive disputed dozens of cases.

Curtis Judd
(31:55) I hear all of this. It doesn't seem right that the burden falls mainly on the video creator. I've had claims on music that I have legally licensed through Musicbed. Wasted time and frustrating.

Tech Condo
(34:29) If my buddy Jason is starting helping out I got to follow

Geert M
(34:51) Not to sponsor a coffee, but a "cool down" drink !

Agent Verex
(35:15) Here is a small "calm down reminder" for you - even if you currently do not need itπŸ™ƒ

anomalily
(35:33) Omg it's 10:30AM aaron

Eric Likness
(35:40) This is turning into Getting Lit while fighting Copyright Criminals.

Chris S
(38:44) To remain neutral YT always gives the control freedom to who ever makes the copyright claim. They do this say they are on top of copyright laws. Whats worse they don't guve a Sh1t about their CC

Stop & Think
(38:57) Q: Is is possible to get someone from YoiuTube legal department to come on live with you?

AK Productions
(39:26) uum, did your LUT just disappear or is it my YT? @aaronparecki

Jules Apatini
(39:30) @ Aaron Parecki from time waisted it would be just better to collaborate with a composer and end all this.

Chris Lai
(41:18) @Aaron Parecki time to do your own music again.

Emerald Audiovisual
(43:13) @Aaron Parecki even if you hired the musician, own the copyright, vetted it, whitelisted it and then used it, you still run into the issue: example

Emerald Audiovisual
(43:21) @Aaron Parecki Some of Streambeats songs got flagged for content-id, because ignorant TV network used their music and then claimed content-id against other content creators

Chris Lai
(44:04) @Aaron Parecki I use some of them and I credit you for it.

BensTechLab
(50:43) Looks like a Camvate cheese plate!

Chris Lai
(51:27) @Aaron Parecki which app was that?

Chris Lai
(51:30) @Aaron Parecki do share so that we know what to look out for.

Emerald Audiovisual
(53:58) @Aaron Parecki that's why you always should have a unified setup πŸ™‚

AK Productions
(54:17) yeah Alibaba and Aliexpress has a bunch of these resellers and factory sellers of cheesplates

Eric Likness
(56:29) T-channel bar is a really nice choice.

Chris W
(56:40) Q: does that stand work with the old yolo pro?

Emerald Audiovisual
(57:40) @Aaron Parecki Streambeats did that .. it's just too easy to create a content-id claim without having the claimant to prove it

Adam 47150
(57:46) A lawtuber I follow is dealing with a copyright issue because a Law YT channes is claiming copyright on court streams where they courts themselves have not granted copyright to any networks covering.

Geert M
(58:06) interesting video from Rick Beato "How I Fixed My COPYRIGHT STRIKE Takedowns".

Eric Likness
(58:14) Orchard is a true troll, did a search on YouTube for Orchard Music and looks like they have made false claims going back YEARS,...Search The Orchard Music False Copyright Claims - How To Deal

James F Carr
(58:28) @Emerald Audiovisual - yes, but there should be some minimum hurdle to initiate a copyright claim. And any revenue generated for a fraudulent claim should be recovered.

Ed Heiger
(59:14) For music, I now use YouTube's free music library and I have no more worries.

Graham Rule
(59:36) @Aaron Parecki Isn't it possible to sue the people who have falsely claimed the copyright for damages? You or Artlist should be able to do this.

anomalily
(1:00:31) Dora should've attended your livestream so she could've sat on your lap for calming

Vinyl Vinnie
(1:00:41) its 7.30 pm here so no biggy

Sven Lakemeier
(1:00:58) Youtube was ignoring the rights of the music industry for years and rightfully got lots of stress for that.

Sven Lakemeier
(1:01:04) So to make up for this they implemented this mechanism which prefers to trust the copyright holders more

Sven Lakemeier
(1:01:10) If they hadn't offered this they probably would have been sued out of existence

James F Carr
(1:01:46) I've gotten copyright claims on original music from people who have no connection to the artist or publishers who represent them. Seems like copyright squatting.

Andy Asquelt
(1:01:59) also: what was your weirdest claim ever? I've used really exotic instrument from freesound in my vid and they claimed me with music that consisted the exact same sample. dropped after grace period...

onocoffee
(1:02:42) I had an instance a year or so ago where a group claimed my video because of the music a friend of mine published. Disputed it and, eventually, they dropped the claim.

anomalily
(1:03:01) I'm so cranky about this but I'm such a small channel that at most I'm losing like $.50 of ad revenue from these claims. I'm just cranky about it.

Jonathan Palmer
(1:04:08) Q If your channel isnt monetized do the strikes mean as much as if you monetize your site in the eyes of YouTube?

Zach Schwartz
(1:05:33) @Aaron Parecki That's quite a pour! Four or five fingers?!

Jonathan Palmer
(1:05:34) Q Is that a ful glass of Bourbon????

IT Never Gets Old
(1:10:58) Q: It looks like you started the room rearranging

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:11:11) @Aaron Parecki yes ... there should be a case of considering prior art

Vinyl Vinnie
(1:11:39) @Aaron Parecki somehow the content ID system of YT wont let you upload copyrighted content on chrome "New feature"?

Franklin Ferreira
(1:11:49) why is the image more flat after you turn off your computer?

Jamie Whitehorn
(1:12:07) Contribution for the swear box fund πŸ˜€

Eric Likness
(1:12:26) Sometimes a reboot mid-stream is a beautiful thing. It gets the job done.

onocoffee
(1:12:32) Man, copyright claims, computer issues, Lily's pharmaceutical thing - this week has not been a smooth one!

Jonathan Palmer
(1:12:40) I am noticing with our M1 Mac Mini running 12.xx I am needing to force quit more often.

Darin Land
(1:17:28) For your new, Bourbon Meditation arrangment.

Graham Rule
(1:17:47) Weren't we meant to see ads with it?

Jules Apatini
(1:18:18) @ Aaron Parecki I can make this kind of music for you dime a dozen

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:18:42) Actually creators get more money from Premium users than from users watching Ads

Chris Lai
(1:19:28) @Aaron Parecki $17.99 for a family.

Chris Lai
(1:19:34) Q: wait, so you mean you can dispute it before it is published?

BensTechLab
(1:21:42) Q: I guess the idea is that an old "offline" song from years ago may just be registered as copyright owner today. Think about classic music from 30+ years ago being put online.

Lesantir Personal
(1:23:41) @Aaron Parecki You can dispute it, but as Andy Mentioned none of those are visible for channels <1000 subs wich is totally dumb and useless in the first place

Chris Lai
(1:24:31) @Aaron Parecki I constantly have people trying make copyrights claim against us playing Public Domain songs likely because they once performed a variation of that song and created a content-id.

Graham Rule
(1:25:37) @Aaron Parecki My videos are unlisted recordings of lectures. Got a copyright claim once on a clip a lecturer used with permission. A documentary maker claimed it - they'd used the same clip.

Scott Morgan
(1:26:32) pre-1923 sound recordings are public domain

Chris Lai
(1:26:40) @Aaron Parecki actually, there are cases where something from 100 years ago can STILL be copyrighted. As long as the original copyrights was extended.

Eric Likness
(1:26:50) 100 years recording is probably public domain, unless you're the Disney Corp,... ;^)

Rick Allen
(1:27:02) @Aaron Parecki A little off-topic, but the same issue you are describing has plagued several "new" NFT offerings. If you think the law isn't fair to you, it is terrible for NFTs.

Nova the WildCraft
(1:27:59) Hello I’m new here.

Chris Lai
(1:28:07) @Rick Allen you almost turned this to be a 3 hours episode.

Andy Asquelt
(1:28:14) shouldn't we then start to do MASSIVE campaign on using copyleft licenses for our works to emphasize we're sick of it all?

anomalily
(1:29:17) I have a forthcoming video about Astrology-to-NFT pipeline coming out lol. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

Martijn Groenleer
(1:29:50) Not a Q: just want to let you know that I did this first livestream yesterday, had 1.3K viewers, 2.8K instances and avg watchtime of 8 minutes for a 3.5 hr ice skating livestream.

Andy Asquelt
(1:30:10) you should get a DAYS UNTIL I NEEDED TO RESTART MY STUDIO GEAR flip in one frame :)

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:33:28) @Aaron Parecki places like Artlist and Streambeats take songs down, temporarily, that get too many flags, while they dealing with the false claims. It's just a good way, to limit issues.

Rick Allen
(1:33:48) @Aaron Parecki Artist decided "not to poke the bear."

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:33:52) @Aaron Parecki Streambeats still lists songs like that on Spotify, but with a stroke through the title and you can't play it.

Christian Olivier
(1:34:04) Q: Could / Should you move the claimed videos to unlisted temporarily so they don’t have money out of this ?

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:36:57) @Aaron Parecki no, it's not a copyright thing. The artist can temporarily suspend a song on Spotify

Lindhaga
(1:37:15) Q: I still thinks you went back in time with the DeLorean and published the video :D

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:37:25) @Eric Likness no point in getting more users in trouble and create a spike in support requests.

Andy Asquelt
(1:37:40) if you won't end a stream then they'll won't launch their bots against you. so for live only channels maybe we should never end and play placeholders between weekly shows? :)

Martijn Groenleer
(1:38:17) will you have time near the end to answer none copyright issues but more like OBS audio related? Don't want to hijack the topic right now.

Allie @ FDX Production Services
(1:38:33) (have you changed your audio setup recently? needs an extra two frames of delay)

Chris Lai
(1:38:58) @Aaron Parecki you are not poking a bear....you are poking a fox.

Emerald Audiovisual
(1:39:04) @Andy Asquelt that only works, until you get a power outage

Rick Allen
(1:40:04) @Aaron Parecki Interesting quick review of Orchard Music https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/16456741/the-orchard-music-is-claiming-copyright-on-my-own-songs-and-contesting-everyting?hl=en

Rick Allen
(1:40:25) @Aaron Parecki Interesting quick review of Orchard Music https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/16456741/the-orchard-music-is-claiming-copyright-on-my-own-songs-and-contesting-everyting?hl=en

Seamus Traynor
(1:41:37) Really how can you call it fair when you get a warning from a live Stream you Delete the Video tehn you can not contest it cause you deleted the Video can you please do a stream on that someday

Eric Likness
(1:42:11) Youtube needs to do a full embargo, ban on Orchard Music for all Alphabet platforms. PERIOD!

Graham Rule
(1:42:45) Maybe we can get you to produce YouTube shorts for all of our channels. All with the same music.

Chris Lai
(1:44:18) There should be a class action against Orchard.

Eric Likness
(1:44:58) Loop it!

Christian Olivier
(1:45:43) Q: Tell us in discord how long it took ;-)

Martijn Groenleer
(1:45:46) q: where to find the discord, I think I should join there