Aaron Parecki

🔴 Live Q&A! Comparing the Sony ZV-E10 and ZV-1 for livestreaming with the ATEM Mini!

September 19, 2021

Questions

(6:35) @Aaron Parecki There's an echo

(6:54) Goooood Morning from Portland ☕

(7:11) no echo for me but video quality is low

(7:27) @Aaron Parecki Any changes in the studio 😛

(7:57) looks like YouTube decided to make my quality low while on wifi lol

(8:01) Hey hey all

(8:14) your studio tour video was awesome

(8:59) @Aaron Parecki my MKII stand and the new Stream Deck sidestand is at the USPS border facility....can't wait for it to cross the border and get to me!

(11:47) What I don’t understand is why Yolobox would sponsor a promotion related to a competitor’s product, heh.

(13:04) What are your thoughts on using ZoomISO with Syphon and a BMD Decklink with the Extremem Pro ISO?

(14:52) @Aaron Parecki .. YT also decided to remove the notification I set yesterday .. and also has some glitches ..

(16:06) @aaron Parecki im using it with hdmi out with a mini using pluggable adapters

(16:29) ZoomISO works really nicely on the M1 Mac Mini’s! Using Syphon to output to Decklink Duo 2 or into ProPresenter 7 for making quick compositions.

(16:49) @Aaron Parecki an image of all the wires from your studio tour should be a meme for livestreaming

(17:01) @Aaron Parecki Do you had issues with apple mac m1 connected to ATEM Mini?

(17:43) @Aaron Parecki Your Studio Tour didn't show your IT closet... missed that.

(18:55) Hey @Aaron Parecki Nice to be back watching live not been active as much; and been watching the replays

(19:02) @Aaron Parecki is there any way to change the color of your google extention chat? I want it yellow again! 🙂

(19:53) @aaron parecki - did you already paint the new gear white? ;)

(20:42) @Aaron Parecki Already got my nameplate for the mini extreme iso

(20:51) @Aaron Perecki I was one of the first to order soon as you mentioned but my name plate is late I was told so I did not get it yet Aaron is that kind of normal you think?

(22:03) @Aaron Parecki Maybe in an other video, can you explain what are the advantages of SDI over HDMI?

(22:33) @AaronParecki Hoe reliable is Decaffeine NDI ? I am planning to use one RPi as streamer and other as player.

(22:56) @Aaron Parecki - What is a good PTZ camera?For under £1000 all in.UK.

(23:33) @Aaron Parecki do you have a field live stream gig coming up? Would it be very different from your "Bike Setup" from like over a year ago?

(24:58) @Aaron Parecki AJaytheCEO talks about PTZ cameras a lot.

(25:08) @Aaron Parecki any monitor you recommend to use with the atem mini on site. thanks

(25:57) @Aaron Parecki Pre-ordered BirdDog Play for use with Zoom NDI. Are you planning on getting a Play?

(26:23) @Aaron Parecki When will you do YoloBox Pro + Sony ZV-1 stream?

(27:10) @Aaron Parecki — Adam apparently released a Companion module for MixEffect Pro . . . have you had a chance to take a look at it, yet?

(28:58) @Aaron Parecki next version of MixEffect and the Companion Module will have even more control over operation of the ATEM switcher.

(29:15) @Lindhaga: I use the LILLIPUT A11, SDI and HDMI In/out

(29:34) @Aaron Parecki May be in another video, are you able to have a look at BMDs 4K switcher solutions? It seems they are the other side, "outdated", because there is no supersource, less keyers etc.

(30:11) @ Aaron Parecki. Lilliput is a good field monitor - very versatile - you could you recommend that for out and about?

(30:29) @aaron parecki - would you consider doing a show to explain how you designed the pj stand in shapr3d ? i think it would be nice ..

(31:25) @Aaron Parecki What cameras would you recommend using for live camming on adult sites?

(32:44) I really didn't think he would answer that question... LOL

(38:04) @ Aaron Parecki. Wired looks so much better!

(38:10) @Aaron Parecki — ZV1 wired looks even better (wireless was fine for purporse).

(38:14) yeah the wireless is potato with a lot of movement

(38:34) a littel bit over exposed.

(39:16) @Aaron Parecki — I’m sure the ZV-E10 is a fine camera, but it lacks the simplicity of the ZV1 with its included lens & the extended capabilities of one of the larger Sony cameras.

(40:01) @Aaron Parecki the E10 seems to be hunting slightly on the exposure.

(40:29) @Aaron Parecki as your hands and head move.

(41:28) @Aaron Parecki is it recommended to use ZV-10 for commercial purpose as it's not rugged like canon dslr eos 5d mark iv

(42:01) @Aaron Parecki Is there a record timelimit on the ZV-E10 ( 30 Min )

(42:19) @Aaron Parecki ZV-1 autofocus a little bit smoother on that fast hand to the lens

(44:09) @Aaron Parecki — ZV1 is still a bit overexposed, but the ZV-E10 is more overexposed. Suggest comparing Portrait Creative Style between both of them, no Picture Profile.

(44:21) Nope, ZV-E10 doesn't have a recording limit

(44:31) Double check, the compression artifacts on the green backgound are from YouTube, right?

(50:41) @Aaron Parecki — ZV1 looks better.

(50:52) @Aaron Parecki can you try S-Log2 profile on camera and add lut on bm converter?

(51:16) @Aaron Parecki — in terms of contrast and exposure.

(51:26) e10 is brighter but zv-1 has more details

(51:41) @Aaron Parecki the ZV1 has much better skin tones which is ideal for this kind of setup.

(52:51) ZV-E10 indeed looks better, but colors are individual

(52:56) it looks like e10 has some kind of compression, not saying it has, but looks like that

(53:03) ZV-1 looks better skin tones

(53:12) @Aaron Parecki I like the ZV-1 better thoo. But I like shaprer and darker

(53:22) Sorry coming in late, does the Zv-E10 just have the kit lens on?

(53:38) The ev10 looks closer to the way you usually have it set, though I like 1 which has a bit more contrast

(53:49) individual preference I mean

(54:07) @Aaron Parecki the tones are better even though it's darker.

(54:11) I agree ZV1 has more detail but it darker. For feel, ZV1 feels more personal and E10 seems more teaching oriented.

(54:58) Both look great tho if I didn't have them to compare.

(55:03) @Aaton Parecki After looking you through new cameras LUMIX is not looking good.

(55:43) Does that mean the ev10 would be better in lower light?

(55:58) @Aaron Parecki Sony Imaging Edge app

(56:41) The Seetec monitor is a bit warm in my opinion.

(56:58) @Marco Panseri — that’s my experience, as well. I ended up adjusting the color on the Seetec to cool it down a bit.

(57:13) @Aaron Parecki What about remote control features

(58:00) @Aaron Parecki Do you think the ZV1 will reduce in price - that would make it an even better deal?

(58:30) @Aaron Parecki do you have ND filter off on ZV-1?

(58:37) How’s the warping

(59:42) ZV-1 is MUCH better across the spectrum

(1:00:11) @Aaron Parecki "My eyes! Soo bright!"

(1:00:19) @Aaron Parecki Can you talk more about LUTs? What you use / like? Are you using on BMCC4k? Are you using LUTs for live streaming?

(1:01:38) Yes 10 it comes in white for you!

(1:03:11) I like the depth of field on my zv-1, I guess that depends on the lens that you put on the e10?

(1:04:30) @Aaron Parecki The manufacturer should trade you to get the white one!

(1:04:43) @Marcin Nowak — I think so, but you can also customize the controls. I sold my ZV1 and replaced it with an A7SIII. ;>

(1:04:51) @ to choose between aperture and shutter speed on ZV-1 you have to press control wheel down side.

(1:05:02) @Aaron Parecki you can keep the same aperture setting manually to 5.6 😉

(1:05:10) @Aaron Parecki Does the app change the power zoom?

(1:05:25) @Aaron Parecki are you thinking of getting a white lens for the E10?

(1:05:33) @Aaron Parecki - Like the ZV-1 & RX0 ii for travel. Less bulky.

(1:10:16) @Aaron Parecki Have you found that Beta of Companion to be stable?

(1:10:52) usually pretty stable as it usually just adds a new specific device or function

(1:10:56) @Aaron Parecki — do you back up your Companion settings before upgrading? If so, via scp, or . . . ?

(1:11:30) triggers can be used to auto change pages on companion too helps so you always have the page for that i out for example

(1:11:42) @Eric Likness yea. I spent quite some time just typing atem in the search and playing with all the functions. Now I have button backgrounds change depending on what the ATEM is doing.

(1:13:25) Could you enable clear image zoom and control that from within companion?

(1:13:40) @Aaron Parecki At least companion Pi as you install totally new OS you have to back up and import

(1:13:58) @Aaron Parecki — are you running the CompanionPi image, or do you just install Raspbian or somesuch & install Companion manually? I’m currently using CompanionPi, due to its simplicity.

(1:14:43) @Aaron Parecki can you do a more detail walkthrough to what you are doing with the trigger?

(1:20:57) @Aaron Parecki — I have a feeling I’m going to end up with multiple devices to control my ATEM

(1:21:15) @Aaron Parecki it would have to transition before you cut the camera

(1:21:32) Hi everyone, joining in late today due to work. What have I missed (aside from everything)? 😉🤣😂

(1:23:01) @Aaron Parecki I guess superstickers don't trigger anything....

(1:23:17) @Aaron Parecki Can you do side by side comparison of both cameras.

(1:27:02) ZV-1 is pinker/more inatural

(1:27:05) I think the skin colors look more natural on ZV-1

(1:27:08) @Aaron Parecki ZV-E10 looks more yellowish..

(1:27:19) ZVE-10 is 1/2 stop brighter and more yellow.

(1:27:24) @Aaron Parecki most lower cost monitors are not color calibrated

(1:27:28) @Aaron Parecki can you correct exposure on ZV-1 so they have same brightness?

(1:29:27) @Aaron Parecki Did I see a colour chart on your desk? Could you show it with both cameras?

(1:29:37) How do you send video signal from your phone to the atem?

(1:30:02) Now that is apples to apples, and so similar.

(1:30:06) @Aaron Parecki ZB-1 looks a little brighter/exposed

(1:30:12) @Aaron Parecki I like your hair colour on the E10 better, now

(1:33:18) @Aaron Parecki also white balance in manual K temperature is better than AUTO White Balance to match colors.

(1:33:35) @Aaron Parecki the other thing that may throw it off a little is the slightly different angle

(1:33:45) Match!

(1:38:42) @Aaron Parecki — try with no Picture Profile & Portrait Mode?

(1:41:45) @Aaron Parecki — it’s under Creative Styles.

(1:41:50) @Aaron Parecki — no, you can be in manual mode. and then find the Creative Styles menu for Portrait Mode.

(1:41:55) @Aaron Parecki — the phone app isn’t going to help you with stuff like Creative modes and Picture Profiles, it’s very basic.

(1:41:59) Not even blackmagic?

(1:45:47) @Aaron Parecki - Just checking to make sure that you don't have any LUTs on the HDMI-to-SDI converters for either of the Sony cameras, correct?

(1:46:06) I think, Portrait is still bluer on ZV-1.

(1:46:15) @Aaron Parecki — so, when you turn around and look at your wall, which camera better reflects reality?

(1:48:16) @Aaron Parecki Live color matching cameras... very useful stuff.

(1:48:19) @Aaron Parecki — green is typically carried in the luminance channel in most digital cameras. Larger sensor in ZV-E10 == greater luminance in that part of the spectrum?

(1:48:29) As you sweep the spectrum, the two cams are looking MORE similar.

(1:48:39) @Aaron Parecki — Same sensor?

(1:49:02) Green is the longest color range sensitivity in CMOS and CCD sensors.

(1:58:33) @Aaron Parecki useful fact, the human eye is most sensitive to Green spectrum, something like 3,000 different shades of sensitivity...

(1:58:41) @Aaron Parecki - Could you rotate your A-6400 to match the ZV cameras and compare the colors from that to the ZVs?

(1:58:55) @Aaron Parecki This all reminds me getting 35mm slides. Some films were stupidly green.

(1:59:02) How are we seeing your phone?

(1:59:08) @Aaron Parecki .. would it be easier to use a Color Card for reference?

(1:59:43) And then the Apple TV is an HDMI source? That's brilliant

(1:59:49) @WutrUduin? thats might be why his skin tones matched but not the background, he is in portrait mode @Aaron Parecki

(1:59:59) @Aaron Parecki — the lens can also make more of a difference in coloration then one might think.

(2:00:07) This is very interesting to me because I have the ZV1 and the ZVE-10.

(2:01:38) @Aaron Parecki Are you trying to match the colour on your supersource art?

(2:02:17) The E10 looks like it has an easy-ease built-in lol

(2:02:24) @Roland Dobbins I have the A6400 as well. I am actually a Canon user that is making the switch.

(2:02:33) The Sigma 16mm 1.4 is much better lens than zv-1 built in lens and the stabilization on the E10 is way better.

(2:02:47) It's non-linear, asymmetrical color model between the two. Portrait mode seemed to cover the full spectrum a "little" better.

(2:02:55) Poor @Aaron Parecki is going to have kittens when he sees how the chat has exploded!

(2:03:05) @Aaron Parecki — to make these camera match better, you’ll need to customize a Picture Profile & shoot a grey card. Also suggest trying the S-Cinetone simulation profiles for ZV1 in various videos.

(2:03:13) Do the cameras have a built-in "white balance" like traditional ENG cameras. Could try that

(2:05:38) @Aaron, I am thinking that the 10 would be closer to match with the A6400

(2:05:47) @aaron. I came in late. But can you swap the lens?

(2:05:58) @Aaron Parecki — another thing to try would be to put the kit lens on the ZV-E10.

(2:06:04) The AWB will shift around, though.

(2:06:30) @Felicia Alston my wife uses a A7III for her channel, and that camera is just awesome.

(2:06:36) @Lynn Westover Jr I just recently got both the A6400 and the ZVE10 and I am loving the color out of the camera. I switched my main camera for the swift focus system

(2:06:52) E10 looks green to me

(2:07:08) I am loving how he is utilizing his iPhone with Apple TV and AirPlay... 💡

(2:07:52) E10 looks green shift. Zv1 magenta.

(2:08:04) @Aaron Parecki — and just change your background to a different color. ;>

(2:08:07) Can you white balance to a card?

(2:09:10) @aaron swap the lens

(2:11:14) Colors are different!

(2:11:40) @Aaron Parecki I think the lens swap is making it look more similar

(2:12:48) @Aaron Parecki - Swap to Sony/Zeiss 20mm colors are closer

(2:13:25) @Aaron Parecki - Do you still have the white balance set to 6600 on the ZV-1?

(2:15:02) Alright fam. I'm out for now. @Aaron Parecki, my ATEM Mini extreme ISO comes in on Wednesday. I'll be watching all of your tricks and tutorial videos until then lol

(2:15:09) @Aaron Parecki I have multiple screens here. The more expensive ones show good matching while the cheap ones emphasise the green.

(2:15:18) It can feel like chasing ghosts when one color shifts as the original one is corrected and dialed in.

(2:15:22) Conclusion: colour issues can take up lots of time!

(2:15:48) @Aaron Parecki — conclusion is that larger ZV-E10 sensor has a wider gamut, especially in green, due to luminance. Lens also made a not-insignificant difference.

(2:15:55) #Aaron Parecki Conclusion: you have to use the same camera 😀

(2:16:32) FWIW skin tones are pretty close right at this moment.

(2:17:00) @Aaron Parecki Helps me be happy with all Blackmagic all the time.

(2:17:07) @Aaron Parecki you can try anather day with logs and luts.

(2:17:28) @Aaron Parecki like the ZV-E10 better for functionality, with the exception of the whole screen issue

(2:19:58) @Aaron Parecki , could you please talk through briefly the Filmic Pro, Apple TV, and Air Play flow! It's seamless!

(2:20:46) @Aaron Parecki , could you please talk through briefly the Filmic Pro, Apple TV, and Air Play flow! It's seamless!

(2:29:25) @Aaron thank you so, so much!

(2:29:29) @Aaron Parecki, Can you use that software on android, and what device would ypu use for the wireless transmission to the Atem?

(2:29:35) @Aaron Parecki is a Chromecast and or Miracast have the same ability with Android phones and Filmic Pro?

(2:30:14) FilmicPro exist for android

(2:30:45) the free version is just quite dull

(2:33:52) @Aaron Parecki — I’m waiting until next year, & keeping my XS Max, as well.

(2:34:05) @Aaron Parecki lesson for the day "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" lol

(2:34:13) @Aaron Parecki Re: BirdDog Play -- from DVE -- "ETA on this end is end of October per our last update."

(2:34:22) smash the LIKE button please

(2:34:40) @Aaron Parecki - Maybe you can borrow a friend's phone or something for the Android part of the tutorial/demo?

(2:35:43) Aaron needs adapters and more cables y'all!

(2:36:29) I'm also gonna head to the fridge, good bye!

(2:36:32) @Aaron Parecki - We need to get you to 25K subscribers, so we can have another celebratory livestream!! 🙂

(2:39:44) Just so sweet and cool! I have a new fam! yay!